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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 11, 2010 6:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: World Cup

BPers??

For one thing, BP hasn't been British Petroleum since it merged with Amoco in 1998.

And for another thing, England isn't Britain.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 11, 2010 8:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: World Cup

Glad to see it was you that chimed in - I was wondering if folks would let that slide.

BTW, I've posted this before, but Scotland has the single coolest parliament buidling in the world; The photos don't really do it justice:
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/nmCentre/images/360_tour/chamber.htm

Filled out and submitted my brackets last night - have Spain beating Netherlands to win it all. Not exactly going out on a limb with my picks, but I still see Cameroon as the dark horse pick.



This post was modified by bluedevil on 2010-06-11 15:51:09

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 11, 2010 8:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: World Cup

It was only the fact that I considered the possibility that you were probably just mischief-making that caused me to moderate the language of my response. That and the great respect I've built up for you over the course of our many interactions hereabouts.


But you were fucking lucky.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 11, 2010 9:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: World Cup

HA!

Thanks for my first laugh out loud moment. I smile at my good fortune.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 11, 2010 7:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: World Cup

rob , Do Wales and Scotland have their own Parlements now ? ( Cornwall or Northern Ireland as well ? ) I know the Scots have been pushing for some form of autonomy for a long time .
I've noticed in the past week in the media here , across the spectrum , many snarky comments re: the tying of company and country . ' Hen's night's out ' gets a lot of coverage here esp. if the photos contain a beyond pissed woman half undressed, in a see how far the great lady has fallen , way . Maybe it's echos of our wars against each other > momma country vs. the republican ( Small r people , small r ) rabble .
Do you care about the WC ?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 11, 2010 8:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: World Cup

Scotland has a parliament, Wales and Northern Ireland have assemblies, all three have certain powers devolved to them from central government in Westminster (Houses of Parliament). So, for example, the Scottish parliament deals with things like education and health in Scotland, but the Westminster government makes decisions about international relationships and defence. Likewise, central government sets taxation levels for everyone, though there are proposals to give Scotland its own tax raising powers.

I have to say that it was the tying of company to country that I objected to. BP is a multinational. It hasn't had British in the name for over a decade and has no ties to any one country. I'm all for multinationals being held to account when they screw up, but the anti-British rhetoric coming from the White House on down smacks of scapegoating and is just distasteful. There were at least three US companies directly involved in that well and everyone, not just the easy foreign target, should be made to stand up and explain themselves.

Oh yeah, the World Cup. I'll probably tune into a couple of games but I've got no particular interest in who wins the thing. But speaking purely as a Scotsman here, and BP shenanigans to one side, USA 1 England 0 would be nice tomorrow. You did it in 1950...

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Poster: snori Date: Jun 11, 2010 8:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: World Cup

Rob is clearly an ABE (nothing to do with your esteemed President, but an 'Anyone But England' grouping of Scots, Welsh, and North Irelanders who unite to urge success on anyone who is playing against England).

I don't believe this is a total dislike of all things English, rather a justifiable annoyance at the dreadful bias of our gutter press who constantly overstate England's abilities and denigrate the teams from the rest of the U.K.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 11, 2010 8:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: World Cup

It's more to do with me mischievously playing up to stereotype. As you might already know, I've spent longer living here in England than I ever lived in Scotland and I actually really like the English (the ones I know well anyway). I've had to put up with my fair share of jibes, some good natured, but some not so. I enjoy a bit of friendly banter and rivalry but when it slides into jingoism and borderline racism that's when I make my excuses and leave.

But I'm still looking forward to seeing the Aussies win back the Ashes this winter...

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Poster: snori Date: Jun 11, 2010 11:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: World Cup

I will not be wound up, I will not be wound up. (100 Times)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 11, 2010 12:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: World Cup

snori , It sounds like your living and dying here . I've been there . I know . You have 28ish hours to wait . Are you going to make it ? Do you really think that we will beat you ?
Stupid question # 4 - Could a match (?) end in a tie , w/ point scoring like the NHL ( that would be hockey , and the only sport similar I could think of )

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Poster: snori Date: Jun 11, 2010 1:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: World Cup

At this stage of the tournament matches (like the opener this afternoon) can end as a draw. The opening stage is a set of 8 mini-leagues and the top two teams in each mini-league go through to a series of knock-out rounds ie 16 teams, 8, 4, Final. These games cannot end in a draw - if the scores are level at the end of normal time (90 minutes), an extra 30 minutes is played. If the scores are level at the end of that time a penalty shoot-out takes place to decide the winner.

If anyone would like further explanation or would be interested in how the 'Offside Rule' is applied, it will have to wait until I get back from the pub.

Snori, Football Correspondent, Ingerland, saying 'back to the studio'

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 11, 2010 1:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: World Cup

Quick - someone explain the infield fly rule to those heads across the pond.

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Jun 11, 2010 3:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: World Cup

Of course England isn't Britain. Britain has a "t" in the middle of it, and the English cannot pronounce any word with a "t" in the middle.

"Can I use your compu'er for a li'le while?"

This post was modified by DeadRed1971 on 2010-06-11 22:29:49

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 11, 2010 4:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: World Cup

HA! That cracked me up and I'll let someone else make the obligatory dental hygiene reference.